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  • Brilliant episode in my opinion! Fresh story that really focused on the human element. And while it’s set back last century, the message is still very relevant today.

    One thing in particular I must praise is the difference in setting for the story. It goes to a place and time that at least I was unfamiliar with, but it handled it well and the story flowed naturally. I feel this is thanks to the greater diversity in the writing team bringing stories from more places, which for a show that’s 50 years old, is definitely welcome.

    Overall, great story! Am looking forward to next week.

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    • I agree but there's something I'd add:

      I've seen/heard several comments saying (in various ways) that the commenter was disappointed by the episode because it didn't have any real villains, as the apparent villains (the Thijarians) turned out not to be villains, after all.

      To me, that was a strength in the episode, not a wakness. If you want an actual villain, Manish would fit the role. However, this episode (like "Rosa") was about good versus evil, rather than heroes versus villains. The real adversary in these episodes was not a person but a way of thinking; tribalism/racism/sectarianism -- hostility to the "other". Opposing that has been a fairly consistent feature of DW for a very long time. Hostility to the "other" is, of course, a defining characteristic -- arguably the defining characteristic -- of the Daleks.

      The fact that this episode so explicitly was not a cartoonish heroes versus villains story made it all the better (& more enjoyable), in my view.

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    • Great episode, definitely the best of Series 11, but Imamadmad has already pointed out why it’s so good, so I’ll nustngove one minor nitpick, the aliens were absurdly irrelevant to the story. Like, you could take them out of the story and nothing would change about the plot. You could insert them INTO almost any work of fiction ever where somebody dies, and nothing would change about the plot. Why on Gallifrey didn’t they just remove the aliens entirely and make it a pure historical? It would be like if in say, The Aztecs or The Massacre of St. Bartholemew’s Eve in the Hartnell era, that one alien from The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy who was going around the universe in alphabetical order turned up, insulted a random character, left, and was never addrsssd again. It’s like Historicals are cursed or something!

      But, yeah, despite that, it was a very good, exciting, and emotional story. By far the best of Series 11 - that’ll be because Chib wasn’t writing!

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    • I liked the episode a lot. My two main problems with it were that Yaz wasn't given much character development and that the Thijarians weren't important enough to the story to have the episode named after them (or to be in it at all).

      I feel disappointed by Yaz's character. The history of her family is fascinating though, I'm glad we got an episode about that. However, that didn't improve Yaz; it only means her grandmother is now a more interesting character than she is. Mandip Gill is still doing a brilliant job with what she's got, but despite that Yazmin doesn't compare to Ryan and Graham.

      The other characters in this episode were amazing, though. I also like the idea of having enemies turn out to be good, but if they weren't  doing anything significant, was there even a reason for the Thijarians to be in this episode at all? I think it would have been better if they had been left out so the episode could focus completely on the family, the marriage, the partition etc. They really didn't contribute to the story in my opinion.

      I also hope we get to see more actually threatening villains sometime soon. The only truly hostile characters we've had so far were Tim Shaw and Krasko, who were fine, but I'd like to see an episode that focuses a villain, one that's actually menacing. Yes, it's nice to have no clear distinction between good guys and bad guys for once, or maybe a few more times than once. But if it's staying that way all the time then I think I'll get bored of it pretty soon.

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